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	<title>Comments on: JumpBox Redefines Server Software by making it easy to throw away</title>
	<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html</link>
	<description>Kimbro Staken exploring creative use of technology and whatever else happens to seem interesting.</description>
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		<title>by: hcgtv</title>
		<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-19876</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Kimbro,

From your reply at Sean's site:
&quot;If you want to use a JumpBox installation to run the modified code then you’ll need an unlocked JumpBox which does require a fee, but we’re not charging you that fee for access to the source code.&quot;

So if I I want to tweak an app running in a JumpBox, I must pay for that privilege. I've been involved with dynamic PHP apps for quite a number of years and I've yet to run a vanilla version of an app, they all need tweaks. 

Installing a plugin requires ftp access to upload the plugin before the admin side can see it, same with a theme change or anything you care to add to a running install.

Can you email me the source code for the versions of PunBB and DokuWiki that is running on your JumpBox. I happen to work on these two projects.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kimbro,</p>
<p>From your reply at Sean&#8217;s site:<br />
&#8220;If you want to use a JumpBox installation to run the modified code then you’ll need an unlocked JumpBox which does require a fee, but we’re not charging you that fee for access to the source code.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if I I want to tweak an app running in a JumpBox, I must pay for that privilege. I&#8217;ve been involved with dynamic PHP apps for quite a number of years and I&#8217;ve yet to run a vanilla version of an app, they all need tweaks. </p>
<p>Installing a plugin requires ftp access to upload the plugin before the admin side can see it, same with a theme change or anything you care to add to a running install.</p>
<p>Can you email me the source code for the versions of PunBB and DokuWiki that is running on your JumpBox. I happen to work on these two projects.</p>
<p>Thanks.
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		<title>by: Kimbro Staken</title>
		<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-17718</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-17718</guid>
					<description>It's not a violation because the GPL simply requires that you provide the source code to anyone who asks for it. It's that source code that can't be obfuscated. We try really hard to not modify the applications we distribute and  happily provide the source code for any of them when asked. We're not here to try to &quot;lock up&quot; the applications, we're here to bring them to more users and add value. It's the value add that we charge for and part of that is access to all the work we did to bundle the app and make it easy to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a violation because the GPL simply requires that you provide the source code to anyone who asks for it. It&#8217;s that source code that can&#8217;t be obfuscated. We try really hard to not modify the applications we distribute and  happily provide the source code for any of them when asked. We&#8217;re not here to try to &#8220;lock up&#8221; the applications, we&#8217;re here to bring them to more users and add value. It&#8217;s the value add that we charge for and part of that is access to all the work we did to bundle the app and make it easy to use.
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		<title>by: hcgtv</title>
		<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-17716</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-17716</guid>
					<description>Hi,

Just came across your JumpBox system, nice concept.

Got one little question, on the product overview you list: Access for full application customization - as a paid option. As in I can’t get access to the bundled software to make changes unless I pay you a fee.

Isn’t this against the GPL?

“The source code must be the preferred form in which a programmer would modify the program. Deliberately obfuscated source code is not allowed.”

Just need a clarification, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just came across your JumpBox system, nice concept.</p>
<p>Got one little question, on the product overview you list: Access for full application customization - as a paid option. As in I can’t get access to the bundled software to make changes unless I pay you a fee.</p>
<p>Isn’t this against the GPL?</p>
<p>“The source code must be the preferred form in which a programmer would modify the program. Deliberately obfuscated source code is not allowed.”</p>
<p>Just need a clarification, thanks.
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		<title>by: Kimbro Staken</title>
		<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-10128</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-10128</guid>
					<description>JumpBoxes do actually work (though they aren't supported) on QEMU and probably work with KVM though we haven't tested that yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JumpBoxes do actually work (though they aren&#8217;t supported) on QEMU and probably work with KVM though we haven&#8217;t tested that yet.
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		<title>by: damjan</title>
		<link>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-10124</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.kstaken.com/archives/126_jumpbox-redefines-server-software-by-making-it-easy-to-throw-away.html#comment-10124</guid>
					<description>How about qemu/kvm?? Is it supported?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about qemu/kvm?? Is it supported?
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